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93dcc3  No.2594[Reply]

I grew up in a liberal household in a liberal part of America; I was raised a christian by my parents whom I love.

I don't hate anyone and I certainly don't hate anyone for their race but one thing that angers me deep down is race-mixing. I don't necessarily see miscegenation as a bad thing but ever single multi-racial couple at my school is pretty much a black dude with a white girl almost without fail. This wouldn't be bad if the couples were a bit more "diverse" but no, deep down I probably hate these people but I want to love them just as God loves me.

Anyone have any advise on how I can deal with this?

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3b1f2d  No.2864


Based and Ethnospilled.

449ca6  No.3082


If you say you love everything your love isn't genuine and you will go to hell.

f28eb6  No.3191


So I'm bad because I'm half turkish?

e170e6  No.3196

in truth there is no such thing a racial mixing. race is a social construct. not biological. therefore skin tone can never really be a real indicator of race. knowing that it is a scientific fact by now that race actually does not exist it might be easier to accept other peoples relationship choices.

a22461  No.3197


You are a Marxist, whether you know it or not. This is not biblical.

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f1dadf  No.2176[Reply]

I am a non demon Christian. For the past month or so I been studying Romans and I just cant shake off how baptism is described as being buried with Christ. Not sure, I looked at Beasley Murray's book on baptism in the NT but it only just seems like baptismal regeneration, which isnt what I was told by my evangelical friends.

Should I just be a Lutheran? Am I missing something here?

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afd1e2  No.2325

Go for it. Non cucked Lutherans are the best Protestants

48355d  No.2340


Thanks for posting this resource. This is why I love reformed teachings; they are dialectical and clear.

c88755  No.2344


Just make sure you get confirmed and go through the classes. Its very important.

c2c7ed  No.2370


If you're curious about Lutheranism, a good place to start is by studying Martin Luther, and checking out his Catechism.

0307aa  No.3195


Confessional lutheranism can be pretty based. Read the Augsburg Confessions

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83b6f0  No.2301[Reply]

Bible translations.

Study Bibles.





Internet streaming and traditional radio stations.

Misc. resources.


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e44cce  No.2443


Hi, longtime believer, new to biblical study

What little research i did recommended the NRSV, which is apparently the default study version at universities and such. I got the Oxford Annotated version with Apocrypha.

2ac6b9  No.2448


Reformation Study Bible

4999f9  No.2585

I love Dr. Constable's notes,

they're very thorough, full of cross-references and he gives a fair presentation of other major interpretations of passages before explaining why they're wrong.

83b6f0  No.3013

Some Protestant Literature (Anglican, Lutheran, Reformed, Evangelical):



667493  No.3194


Issuesetc is a good lutheran podcast.

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1c24d1  No.2947[Reply]

Help me connect the dots. Long-time posters please add what you know.

This is almost entirely pieced together from snapshots on web.archive.org


8chan created by hotwheels in October


/christian/ created in September

Alex is the owner. He's a Southern Baptist.

Views on moderation: "I am personally a Baptist, and will defend my views as a poster, but dialogue and points made from other perspectives won't be deleted."

The board reaches 6,000 posts by the end of the year.


The 8chan site has some outages and breaks in November as development progresses.

/christian/ IRC channel couples the board

Alex remains BO

Board hits 238,000 posts by the end of the year.

/christianity/ created in February

BO cites perception of censorship on /christian/ as the cause.

"I noticed /christian/ had a lot of censorship so I'm starting a new board. I promise not to delete anything simply because I disagree."

Dead board. 154 posts by the end of the year.

/christ/ is created in April. It had some activity prior in 2014, but was somehow deleted or lost and the new first post is 4/19/15.

Rules: "This board is for Christians of all denominations; that being said, people of other religions, agnostics, and atheists, are very welcome to post, ask questions, and debate with us if they so desire. Spam will be deleted. This board is also SFW."

Board log is made available and stickied at top.

The board reaches 8,800 posts by the end of the year.


/chrisitan/ swaps hands in June. New BO "Peter" is a Catholic who makes a goal of stopping aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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9e7cb3  No.3149


Was the site admin related to the BO change like he suspected? Do we have an answer?

b29d1c  No.3179

I've been using /christian/ since 2015 and i remember cuckvol being a thing. Just can't pinpoint when exactly.

Basically the catholic mods got insane and started banning any posts by protestants regardless of content. Lasted about a month i think

b29d1c  No.3181

Also I think chans in general are just slowing down. And most of the users just post on discord these days. People join the large christian servers, make friends, and form their own smaller servers with them and so on.

cf7765  No.3188


Was Peter the one that first got rid of the flags? I remember one day a new guy took over the board and got rid of the flags, then like a week later Codemonkey gave the board back to whoever had it before.

d73fd5  No.3193

I'm not sure if anyone even knows who I am (not that it matters) because I only posted occasionally, but I was a Korean who often replied to people asking about Korean Christianity and other related subjects. I do remember cuckvol and remember Alex as being an absentee mod… and the flags being available at some point, and at one point it was removed for a while until it came back. I noticed something very strange along the years that there was a huge Catholic bias that seemed to have been growing, even on their Discord server where I looked at. I definitely did not feel like I belonged there and after at least a year hiatus from this boards, I return to see the blatant Catholic bias even more apparent, with no one doing anything about it, people saying "all Protestants should be dead" or something (I'll try finding the thread later), with the guy saying "I'm glad the BO is on our side". I thought such incendiary comments would be more banworthy than the things I've come across here, so I was surprised, to say the very least.

150efd  No.3148[Reply]


I personally wish our services can be like this

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dd5269  No.3163



did you mean to say "not supposed to be like a rock concert", as if that's what I'm arguing for?

0b2d0a  No.3167

As a Baptist, I approve. This is what we need

c0b7bd  No.3172


Jesus wept

d03267  No.3173


What did he mean by this

7f4872  No.3192


Honestly, as long as that style of worship motivates you to give Jesus something to eat when he's hungry, give Him something to drink when he's thirsty, take Him in when he's a stranger, clothe Him when he's naked, take care of Him when He's sick, and visit Him when He's in prison, more power to you.

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cdb5ac  No.1054[Reply]

It would be useful if there was a big database of Christian resources.So many supposedly unbiased, objective internet monopolies are hostile to Christianity. What if there was a conclusive database that collected as much history, theology, and the like as possible, while also warning away from false teachings. As a plus, make it work like the sites with the entire Bible on them, but weigh the pros and cons of each translation.

The problem would be approaching resources that denominations disagree on. Would there be different databases for each denomination, or an analysis of each denomination and their views?

Except that this is just a thread for sharing Christian resources. That would be a huge undertaking regarding things I'm not an authority on, so I'm not equipped to do so. I suppose it doesn't have to just be old stuff, any sites or media focused on Christian content can also be shared here. Also I just took these images from /christian/, I'm not positive on everything in them.

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0d4804  No.3083


No, I was using that post as an example of cross-board referencing on >>>/bible/

f12f52  No.3085


alright just wondering.

d9b9d1  No.3101


Has tons of writings from the early Plymouth Brethren writers. A treasure trove of devotional and doctrinal material.

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edfa04  No.3190

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50aa4f  No.1525[Reply]

Meme thread

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Whipped up some fresh OC

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d219b7  No.2888[Reply]

I'm fed up with protestantism, it all seems so fake and more "self-help" than spiritual, kind of like Dr Phil if that makes sense. I'm considering begoming orodox or catholic. I'm in the dallas area and there seems to be more catholic than orthodox but orthodox still has a presence.

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a0c74f  No.2913


>it all seems so fake and more "self-help" than spiritual

Stop going to lefty churches then.

d219b7  No.2914


I'm in Richardson, going to UT Dallas


How am I supposed to know what's a "lefty church" and what isn't? Also the last mega church I went to literally started out with the preacher saying his was disappointed that they couldn't collect 2 million in donations so now they can't build out their new cafe.

a2cfec  No.2916


You look at their website.


>Denominational affiliation

>Confessional document

>Pastor's seminary training

>Recording of a past service (sometimes they only post the sermon)


You're in the Bible belt. There is no shortage of conservative Protestant churches where you are, they're just usually not the ones with the billboards.

The issue you're identifying isn't ubiquitous across Protestant churches, and it isn't outright solved in eastern orthodoxy or roman catholicism.

Look on sbtexas.com/find-a-church/

The SBTC is the conservative side of southern Baptist in Texas

Trinity Bible Church also looks good near you.

d12a23  No.2943


You are only gonna get disappointed if you go to Evangelical churches

>t. Ex Baptist

6905ba  No.3186

If you wanted to go to a traditional Latin mass, it looks like there is an FSSP parish pretty close to you. The main mass is at 9 AM. The other masses are listed as low masses (meaning the priest wouldn't chant). Also, if you go this Sunday (Easter) evidently they have an easter egg hunt and barbeque.


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431131  No.3174[Reply]

How should christians treat superstition?

We are by definition supernaturalists, believing in the spiritual realm. Is it wrong to presume ufo sightings are always imagined or fabricated?

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921ff9  No.3180


I doubt it. I don’t believe anything supernatural exists. I believe spirits are a part of nature. Even God is subject to formal logic which is why the universe has evil in it. Since God is perfection logically anything He creates that’s unique from Him will have some degree of imperfection/evil. I’m basically a fedora who came to Christian conclusions.

6ac443  No.3182


God is Eternal so He already transcends formal logic and is not subject to it.

921ff9  No.3183


Jesus is logic, Logos. God cannot go against Himself.

006911  No.3184


supernatural does not mean illogical.


logos does not mean logic.

6ac443  No.3185


Things God does might be done from higher dimensions so they will look supernatural to us.

But also depends what you mean by supernatural.

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1ffe4b  No.3159[Reply]

Do you hold any Christian positions that would get you in trouble if you spoke about them in the workplace?

A rugby player was terminated from his team (and the league?) because he posted an insta meme that paraphrased Paul in 1 Cor 6.

b49095  No.3161


I work at an abortion clinic. I like to scream in the women's faces, but I don't get fired because I'm the only one willing to mop up the fetus parts and toss them in the incinerator.

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f985f4  No.3138[Reply]

Behold thy mother.

Say it with me:

Regina caeli, laetare, alleluia!

Quia quem meruisti portare, alleluia!

Resurrexit, sicut dixit, alleluia!

Ora pro nobis Deum, alleluia!

Gaude et laetare, Virgo Maria, alleluia!

Quia surrexit Dominus vere, alleluia!

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121ee5  No.3158


You are confusing my return with that of our creators!

121ee5  No.3160

Tuck tail and run did you?

68bb9a  No.3165



You are claiming to be Jesus. You do it here, and I've seen you do it before.

OP: "Are you a disciple of Jesus?"

You: "I don't see the point of being my own disciple"

Jesus will be seen coming "in the clouds" at the second coming: Mark 13, Revelation 1. This hasn't happened, so we can safely say you are not Christ and the second coming hasn't occurred.

Now you're saying that the second coming won't be of Jesus, but the Father? Or that Jesus isn't creator? Explain for us exactly what your delusion of grandeur entails.

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3d4105  No.3170


Not an argument.

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e7f1c1  No.3104[Reply]

Does this matter to Christians?

Acts 17:24

God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples made by human hands. 25Nor is He served by human hands, as if He needed anything, because He Himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.…

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8987c8  No.3126


He's referring to a passage in 2 Thessalonians where Paul says that "the man of sin will enthrone himself in the temple of God." Some people take that to mean that there will be a literal Third Temple that the Antichrist will take over, but personally I think it's talking about the Church since every other time Paul refers to a Temple of God, he's talking about the Christian Church, not a literal building. And Paul was writing all of this when the Second Temple was still standing.

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d8829f  No.3136


from christian perspective, since the old covenant has been superseded any temple the jews build cannot be 'God's temple' proper, as Paul says: "the man of sin will enthrone himself in the temple of God

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4b5b8a  No.2991[Reply]

Please pray for the success and safety of the firefighters if there are any and that, regardless of what happens, God will use this for good.

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39b2f5  No.3045

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

73fe71  No.3047

duh juice!!

35ac52  No.3050

God's wrath against popish idolatry

6f5fb5  No.3065

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Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

be7fbd  No.3166

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Muslims celebrating

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5e724f  No.3068[Reply]

Catholics, what do you think?

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e05fc8  No.3094


presuming you mean 3:21

> The problem is in Greek, the usage of the term in early papyri shows that it is literally contracts signed to enter into a trade agreement.

I'm lost, are you saying there was a different term on certain papyrus manuscripts that you think is correct, which isn't used now?

>Baptism is like a contract

yes, the sign of the new covenant. The question is what the terms of the "contract" are on our end. Are you just reasoning that such a "contract" must necessarily require work on man's side, even if it seems to contradict Paul's labor on justification by faith?

Consider the covenant that God made with Himself in Genesis 15.

>Baptism by the Spirit in the New Testament is also not the Evangelical born again thing but a parallel to John the Baptist's baptism. We know this thanks to Acts 2 which shows this.

I'm not following what you mean. Who teaches something like this?

>"Repent and be baptized" means baptism is a saving work

Contradiction with Eph 2. Baptism is inextricably linked with belief unto salvation, but is not presented here as a necessary condition.

It is not an evangelical argument that baptism is not an instruction to everyone. The only debate is the role it plays in salvation.

You're kind of stringing a bunch of thoughts together and it's clear you've argued over a number of key passages, but it's really impossible for me to follow. Did you read something that persuaded you to this position? If so, what was it? Who teaches what you're saying about John's baptism?

You have a complex systematic theology on this, but that does not permit the fundamental error you're making: salvation as a result of works contradicts God's word. Dance around this fact at your own peril.

af99d8  No.3096


1)the term "ἐπερωτάω" in 1Peter 3:21 in early Greek papyri all refer to contracts used in trade relationships. This is against your view because no Evangelical or Baptist view Baptism as a contract that must be signed to enter into a relationship. The fact that you cannot understand my mention of "trade contract" also essentially makes what you present as a non argument. Because it does not tell us why your understanding accords to the text or why it is consonant with the usage of ἐπερωτάω in Greek. People who want to establish trade relations do so by signing a contract to rectify and enact the agreement. And this is why it is the means where one enters into trade relationships. Hence the parallel is clear for Baptism. It is the contract signed to enter the New Covenant


2)Non argument. Because it isnt some sign of something already done in the past but the means by which one enters into the relationship. As my point on ἐπερωτάω shows, what I presented is accurate to the grammatical context contra your view. In fact in the OT there are plenty of examples of visible signs given to assure and reinforce God's promises. For instance Gen 9:12–17 where the rainbow is the sign of God's promise to Noah. In Gen 13:14–17, God's promise to Abraham is shown to be binded through sight. These signs are the visual means by which the contract or promise given by God is sealed.

Also Galatians 3 shows whosoever is Baptized into Christ, puts on Christ. And no, this is not the Baptism of Spirit ala Baptist born again. It's water Baptism because this is the only way Paul's point can make sense, as Baptism by its own meaning in Greek is always water related. Hence 1Corinthians saying the Israelites were Baptized into Moses refer to the Red Sea crossing. The water wasnt a metaphor or some Spirit. It was real water that parted! Josephus uses the term to refPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

a28a22  No.3097


>I am the only one intertextualizing and going into context here

I'm not trying to give you a master's thesis man, I'm just trying to understand what you're saying.

By the way you're not; you're just throwing a bunch of talking points up.

You're reasoning that sola fide is incompatible with 1 Peter 3:21 because of the use of eperotao, and the term's use in other greek documents of the time is the basis for a change in interpretation on that operative word. Is that right?

63a3df  No.3137


Nice exegesis

>t. ex Baptist

2b1779  No.3140


>during justification

The use of these words at that point in your post is strictly a denial of the gospel of Jesus Christ, because our justification before God is not something that occurs within us where we are made truly pleasing to God in and of ourselves and declared righteous on the basis that we truly are righteous and good. We are not declared righteous on the basis of something pleasing in us, because we are nothing but displeasing to a holy God. This is why God declares us just, because we have died and now He sees only Christ, Romans 7:1-4

<Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God.

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e07d93  No.2659[Reply]

>If you're a homosexual I hope you get brain cancer like Ted Kennedy

Was this called for?


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2268ff  No.2663

Read the imprecatory psalms and ask again


Anderson is wrong and spiteful but that's not an example of it, he's spot on about vagrants.

c71bf9  No.2700



So basically Jesus and his disciples.

dd22a2  No.3079


What's this?

be7d81  No.3135


Not at all, in Romans 1 God tells us they're "worthy of death," in addition to a multitude of other things that they are.

087adb  No.3141


>Jesus was a vagrant

>Jesus was a sinner

Repent, blasphemer

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