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 No.2873261

>>2873178

The DPRK one got cycled because it got traction, China because we have 5 threads every day. Cuba isn't as much of a hot topic, if you make a Cuba thread that gets traction it'll get cycled.




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 No.2824322[Reply]

It's that time again - bring your criticism and suggestions for /leftypol/ to the table and talk to the mods.

I'll probably keep it pinned for about a week.

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>>2871489

Three*




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 No.2866276

>>2865778

The only ones I would recommend are The Nature of the Operations of Modern Armies by Vladimir Triandafillov, and also The Evolution of Operational Art by Georgii Isserson




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 No.518058[Reply]

Backup boards:

https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/

http://www.getchan.net/

Other boards:

>>>/anarcho/

>>>/marx/

>>>/freedu/

>>>/leftyweebpol/

>>>/gnussr/

>>>/leftpol/

Groups:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/leftypol

http://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=leftypol

Leftybooru:

http://lefty.booru.org/

/leftypol/'s magazine:

http://bunkermag.org/

http://spectrerouge.com/

FAQ:

>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

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>>518058

Is the IRC supposed to be dead? Both #leftypol and #bunkerchan are dead; the former empty and the latter unconnectable.




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 No.2650976[Reply]

Mandatory containment for: discussing your dogshit election campaigns and candidates.

Voluntary containment: discussing burger-specific things nobody cares about.

Allowed outside this thread: real political developments pertaining to the USA (IE, laws being passed, strikes, wars, etc)

original OP:

The last thread died, long live the new thread.

Midterms rapidly approaching gomrades. With impeachment proceedings likely on the horizon, the next congress will surely be a historic one.

What do you all think will happen? Let's discuss the spectacle of bourgeois liberal democracy in the era of Gronald Grumph.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/

https://www.electionbettingodds.com/

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>>2873236

I haven't been over there in a while, but I'm fairly certain they are disenchanted with the whole trump meme now


 No.2873240

>>2873238

Every /ptg/ still gets tons of activity. Maybe it's all bots, but it seems they're still on the trump train


 No.2873242

>>2873238

They literally still have a daily president Trump general on halfchan /pol/ that hits Grover furr levels of denial and hero worship. I know that khashoggi was a faggot but when he died the general reaction on 4chan wasn't just to point out the hypocrisy in liberals caring about this one guy dying but to actually call Saudi Arabia based and start finding other elements of Saudi society that they thought were cool and triggered the libs. They capitulated on Israel almost immediately when they realized it's the perfect real life model for their ethnostate autism and were cool with the very same neocons they used to shit on for blowing up Syria and Libya attempting to do the same in Venezuela

Idk about 8ch /pol/ but for a long time they banned anyone who criticized Trump at all and started recently trying to doxx anyone who jumped ship to yang because they both were "cia psyops" and shit like that


 No.2873294

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>>2873119

>non-intreventinism

Tanks will blow them


 No.2873367

>>2873294

Nazis used to say the same shit 50 fucking years ago you stupid trot faggot

In the USA the only leftists right now who are against installing fascists everywhere around the worls are ☭TANKIE☭s or ☭TANKIE☭ adjacent so you should probably shut the fuck up




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 No.2873344[Reply]

What if Religion doesn't wither away but simply changes under Communism as it did under capitalism?

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 No.2873349

>>2873344

This is more likely to happen than for it to simply wither away.


 No.2873351

>>2873344

The maker of this image forgot to add "enforcing private property laws"


 No.2873357

religion as it is today, definitely needs to whither away. Most Christian places of worship in the U.S. are bastions of reactionary ideology. They also ameliorate the problems created by capitalism by setting up charities, so all the externalities that come with the economic system are offloaded onto them, and these religious organizations then benefit by either getting an opportunity proselytize, or advertise their "good works".

I really don't like organized religion and I think it's mind poison. That said, the Christ-coms are OK, because they at least try to curb that poison to benefit us.


 No.2873365

>>2873348

But these material conditions and debates and such only go after religion in its current form and ones akin to Christianity

However religion have been apart of humanity forever what is to say that it won't simply take on new forms under communism as it did in ALL economic systems?


 No.2873366

>>2873357

What "needs to happen" is different from what will happen




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 No.2263573[Reply]

ITT: movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes, shitposting, etc.

This is a voluntary thread that users can choose to post in, if… I forgot the rest of whatever the old OP was. Honestly, I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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 No.2873345

>>2873332

>my mental illnesses are triggered or something like that.

That does sound like a phrase someone whose first language isn't english would say, i suppose you meant your mental state is slowly degrading. Do you have receive treatment?


 No.2873350

>>2873345

Yeah, I'm taking meds and go to 1-3 psychologists/psychiatrists a week. What I meant is that my mental illnesses come to surface often when I try to get ready and leave the house.


 No.2873362

>>2873334

tedious fallacy tbh

the full power of the bourgeoisie will be used in all circumstances.

>>2873343

they already have the power

stop being e-reformist


 No.2873363

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>>2873350

it will get worse


 No.2873364

>>2873363

look more like jizz than tears tbh




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 No.2873335[Reply]

>Let us now picture to ourselves, by way of change, a community of free individuals, carrying on their work with the means of production in common, in which the labour power of all the different individuals is consciously applied as the combined labour power of the community. All the characteristics of Robinson’s labour are here repeated, but with this difference, that they are social, instead of individual. Everything produced by him was exclusively the result of his own personal labour, and therefore simply an object of use for himself. The total product of our community is a social product. One portion serves as fresh means of production and remains social. But another portion is consumed by the members as means of subsistence. A distribution of this portion amongst them is consequently necessary. The mode of this distribution will vary with the productive organisation of the community, and the degree of historical development attained by the producers. We will assume, but merely for the sake of a parallel with the production of commodities, that the share of each individual producer in the means of subsistence is determined by his labour time. Labour time would, in that case, play a double part. Its apportionment in accordance with a definite social plan maintains the proper proportion between the different kinds of work to be done and the various wants of the community. On the other hand, it also serves as a measure of the portion of the common labour borne by each individual, and of his share in the part of the total product destined for individual consumption. The social relations of the individual producers, with regard both to their labour and to its products, are in this case perfectly simple and intelligible, and that with regard not only to production but also to distribution.

Here, in the first chapter of Capital volume 1, Marx is clearly talking about communism - "a community of free individuals, carrying on their work with the means of production in common, in which the labour power of all the different individuals is consciously applied as the combined labour power of the community." What I find interesting is this:

>Labour time would, in that case, play a double part. Its apportionment in accordance with a definite social plan maintains the proper proportion between the different kinds of work to be done and tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.2873361

>It seems to be that it's implied here that Marx believed that the distribution of articles of consumption in communist society would not be completely free, as had become the belief by the time that Lenin wrote in State and Revolution that "There will then be no need for society, in distributing the products, to regulate the quantity to be received by each", but rather that apportionment by labour rendered would still be the rule of distribution for consumption.

Yes, but: 1. It's the early phase of communism. 2. "We will assume, but merely for the sake of a parallel with the production of commodities, that the share of each individual producer in the means of subsistence is determined by his labour time. Labour time would, in that case, play a double part." It isn't that Marx was absolutely certain that the beginning of communism will look like that scenario, just that it is the most simple scenario to think about, the most simple allocation mechanism.

>I know Cockshott has caught a little flak for suggesting that "to each according to his needs" refers to such assistance

It certainly is limited to that in CotGP.

>rather than superabundance of consumption goods, which he calls a Bukharinite delusion

Well you never know. I don't think of the higher phase of communism as an abrupt shift, but a tendency that gradually develops, and maybe it will not become 100 % of the economy. If we agree on it being such a gradual development, then there is no point in being sectarian about our different opinions about the year 10000.




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 No.2872359[Reply]

Explain to me Zizek political position. One day he says "I'm for communism", the other he's peak capitalism realism, saying we need to reform capitalism.

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 No.2873289

>>2873229

Why the fuck did he get banned?


 No.2873293

>>2873289

"And they hated him, for he spoke the truth. "


 No.2873301

>>2873229

lmao mods think they're MLs but fall for the zizek meme


 No.2873317

>>2873289

he's already unbanned, it wasnt even the žižek fanboy who did it lmao

>>2873301

imagine being this stupid lmao


 No.2873359

>>2873229

Seriously you need to oust the fucking zizek fanboy in the moderation. Talk about a fucking coup.




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 No.2873005[Reply]

Is there any industry that is more awful and disgusting as the pornography industry?

When I was living in Japan I am Taiwanese btw I witnessed a university girl shooting a porn video for getting cosmetics money. She hid this thing from her mother and brother

I don't know but probably the same thing goes for Hungary and Czechia

How porn managers treat females is utterly horrendous. Most of the pornstars are getting bruises and other shit from the shootings

Capitalism is utterly disgusting so is pornography

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 No.2873347

Porn is a good thing. Sex is a good thing. Go hide in your little corner incel.


 No.2873353

>>2873347

Porn is garbage. I refuse to ever pay money or labor vouchers for it. It's just a coping mechanism because girls never liked me.


 No.2873355

>>2873318

>they will become the pron dealers of the new age and make a shit tone of "materialistic profit from it

Why would they suddenly start charging money under communism? They have never done so before. Yet exactly when money loses its value within the real economy, you expect perverts on 4chan to only exchange their porn for currency.

You should expect the opposite. Communism will know no copyright protections of any kind. We will supply free server space to anyone hosting information others want to see, and also allow people to buy personal servers with their hard-earned labor tokens, so that they can have additional space at home. These servers will host the best pornography freely searchable with dedicated search engines. There will be no barriers to the efficient transmission of porn.

>State funded means, only whats the most popular will get funded

State funded means that all fetishes get represented. Even the most disgusting and deprived will be given their due. Kinkshaming of any kind is frowned upon under communism.

>I f you want a specific fetish itll cost ya Buttcoins

This can be arranged. All citizens will receive a weekly share of buttcoins that can be given to artists of their choice. Artists who earn enough buttcoins will be given labor exemptions in order to work on their fetish art.

But this is just one of the many possible mechanisms we could use.

>Like whats going on for years and years now, made available by big company porn sites

What is available right now is inauthentic sexuality alienated by monetary incentives. Capitalist amateur porn is a mere buzzword. Under communism, amateur porn means truly spontaneous acts by people who want to share their sexuality with the world.

>are there gonna be regulated government sites?

Perhaps. Although I don't see the need of this. It is a characteristic of capitalism that porn needs to be centralized into corporate "sites." Under communism the sharing of porn is completely liberated. InstePost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2873356

>>2873065

Where's penetration and exploitation?


 No.2873358

>>2873355

Nope. Cumming is what bourgeois people do. There can only be ascetic communism.




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 No.2863991[Reply]

Why didn't the world's premier global capitalist power devolve into Fascism near the end of its reign?

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>>2872796

There is both a Babylonian and Scythian branch of Saxons derived from the Ashkenazis. The Sacchetti family of Rome manage some Sachs bloodlines which included Samuel Sachs the co-founder of Goldman Sachs. The Saxe clans have shares in Goldman Sachs. The Savoy and Torlonia families of Italy both have some Saxon origins and the Massimo family have Gothic ancestry. The Massimo family has married with the Saxon House of Wettin through Princess Maria Christina Sabina the daughter of Prince Francis Xavier of Saxony. The Massimos are the head of the Gothic bloodlines. Prince Vittorio Emanuele IV of Savoy's mother was Marie Jose of Belgium of the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family. Prince Vittorio is the Prince of Naples. I believe the Savoys have some African ancestry just as Coburg has an African on its flag. Africans mixed in with the Moors which were mostly Arab and these African groups within the Moors settled in Naples most of all. The Savoy family and their puppet dictator Bennito Mussolini issued Leggi Razziali under royal decree which were anti-Jewish laws. The Fascists shared a similar ideology as Nazis. Queen Elizabeth II's father George VI was Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Jonathan Sacks was the former Chief Rabbi in the UK and serves the Windsors as a Knight of the British Empire. Jonathan Sacks is an evil pedophile and lying false accuser. The Savoy, Sacchetti, and Massimo families covertly oversee the Saxon-Gothic bloodlines from Rome and prop them up as royals. The solution to dealing with the royal families which are operating as a global crime syndicate is outlawing royalty, dictators, and singular rulers and then declaring these criminals the terrorists that they are and executing them. Prince Andreas of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is the head of this family with his wicked children Prince Hubertus of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Prince Alexander Philip of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and Princess Stephanie Sibylla of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The Saxe princes are like military generals that command Nazi gang stalkers in the United States and Europe. Prince Andreas has lived in the US. Prince Hubertus has worked as a banker in New York City and Germany. The Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family own about 20,000 acres in Thuringia. Prince Konrad of Saxe-Meiningen is the head of his princely branch and works as a financial analysPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2872798

>>2872797

The Saxon noble families of Germany have a portion of ownership over the Aryan Brotherhood, Nazi Lowriders, and Public Enemy No. 1 which are involved in robbery, identity theft, and other crimes. The Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family also control the Ku Klux Klan and oversee Nazi propaganda. The Nazi Lowriders and Public Enemy No. 1 are allied and mixed in with the Mexican Mafia and Mexican gangs like the Surenos. The House of Hohenlohe-Langenburg are a German-Spanish nobility and they manage some Mexican street gangs. The German-Mexican Prince Hubertus of Hohenlohe-Langenburg has a residence in Mexico and manages oversight of criminal organizations owned by the Spanish Hohenlohe-Langenburg line which are the Dukes of Medinaceli. The Hohenlohe-Langenburg family financed Nazi propaganda in Mexico which is why there are Mexican Nazis like the Nationalist Front of Mexico. The House of Saxe-Gessaphe also have a residence in Mexico. In the 18th century Princess Louise Eleonore of Hohenlohe-Langenburg married Duke Georg I of Saxe-Meiningen and in the 19th century Prince Ernst II of Hohenlohe-Langenburg married Princess Alexandra of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. A German branch of the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family was appointed as the monarchs of Belgium with King Philippe of Belgium, Queen Mathilde of Belgium, Princess Astrid of Belgium and Archduchess of Austria-Este, and Prince Laurent of Belgium as members of the Belgian Saxe-Coburg and Gotha family. The Saxon families use Saxo Bank in Switzerland and Denmark for their stock market rackets. TPG Capital of Texas owns about 30 percent of Saxo Bank with its co-founder and billionaire Protestant James Coulter. The Saxon and Wettin families are partly Protestant and were heavily involved in the Protestant Reformation. The name Sackler derives from Saxon. The Jewish Sackler family in the United States are multi billionaires and founders of Purdue Pharma which is a large manufacturer of oxycodone and other pain killers. Richard Sackler is a top member of this family and worth about 13 billion. The Sackler family have been exposed for pushing their pain killers through the medical industry and causing mass opioid addiction in the United States. The Wettin family produced 3 rulers of Lithuania. Rodney Sacks is a South African-American billionaire and CEO of Monster BevePost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.2872900

>>2871485

>the rest of the labour party

Come on, just say it. It was the Catholic Church.


 No.2873292

>>2863993

>fascism is capitalism in decay

Incorrect. Fascism is feudalism in renewal.

>One 'leader' or king who is dictator

>Economy, military, media, etc completely subservient to leader "OR ELSE!"

>Obsession with rank and purity of blood

>Everyone expected to blindly submit to anyone above them

>Rewards given out based on loyalty not merit

>Advancement based on constant infighting and conniving

Fascism is not half the edgy new ideology people make it out to be. Rather it is a throwback to literally one of the oldest forms of government.


 No.2873354

>>2873292

>Fascism is feudalism in renewal

no that's capitalism




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 No.2872135[Reply]

So here in the U.S., we encounter an issue in building socialism that our European and Asian comrades don't necessarily have. Namely that the labor movement has been safely kept from actual political power (namely forming anything even resembling a labor party) by the established government, that "communism" is more associated with foreign movements and a "fad" adopted by coastal elite liberals than a legitimate proletarian movement, and our rapidly slipping position as global hegemon allowed the previous generation of workers to see both a large increase in their standard of living as well as comfortable wages leaving communism to the kind of people who would engage in radical politics in times of prosperity: alienated youths and social recluses.

Overall, the mere act of building a cohesive communist movement in America is stymied by these myriad factors all playing off each other: if a communist party is formed it isn't expected to achieve or do anything, if it grows large enough it'll be split by bored coastal suburbanites adopting one strange tendency or another to LARP as being "deep political thinkers" or engage in spectacle politics, finally those making up the movement, initially, would be the kind of people who can afford to dedicate such a large portion of their life to politics so isolated from the common working man that it can hardly be argued that they represent the interest of the proletariat.

Thus, it appears to me that there's only one way to properly organize a leftist movement that doesn't fall into the trap of the three prior points I mentioned: radical unionism. Being elected doesn't matter, because votes alone are just the illusion of power.

Labor, however, is power. Even a small union in a big city can do more to affect policy and economics, than a large party operating only in the electoral sphere. You cannot commodify unionism, as unions are diametrically opposed to the Capitalist class and so advertisement of any workers organization, even if it's "tamed" unions collaborating with the bourgeoisie, would be cancerous on Capitalism's growth. Finally you crack down on woke-takes from IdPol types, after all it's easy for some bougie fuck to claim some "oppressed nationality" and then silence criticism by claiming you committed soPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2873226

>>2873209

Kaiserreich plebs btfo


 No.2873262

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>>2872494

>What I said was in the US unions ended up not fighting capitalism but bargaining with it.

You said "U.S. Unions never fought capitalism", that's an absolute statement, it's not "Well a few ended up bartering with capitalism after a while", it's "they never fought capitalism, ever."

Secondly this is blatantly untrue given the IWW began to lose membership precisely BECAUSE they refused to "moderate" themselves after WWII

>key word "a hundred years ago"

How many years has it been since the revolution in Russia again?

>>2872613

It's in essence saying people shouldn't. There's nothing wrong with organizing, period. You're saying rather than even try, just give up in advance because "that method of organizing failed because I said so."

>>2873063

>Syndicalism has failed, Leninism has the highest success rate.

Again, how do you even define a "failure"? That a revolution didn't happen? Well in part we have the brief success of the bolsheviks to thank for that, snatching up revolutionary fervor from other leftist ideologies, and where are the bolsheviks today?

>It fails precisely because it cannot be implemented, the unions aren't going to take over the state, it's not in their nature.

They wont according to who? And who will? Some hipster in the SEP sipping coffee with the 12 members of the Portland chapter?

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 No.2873309

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>>2873262

>You said "U.S. Unions never fought capitalism", that's an absolute statement, it's not "Well a few ended up bartering with capitalism after a while", it's "they never fought capitalism, ever."

A few did not end up bartering, a majority did and now they all do.

The Unions in the US never fought capitalism petty street fights do not count.

>Secondly this is blatantly untrue given the IWW began to lose membership precisely BECAUSE they refused to "moderate" themselves after WWII

Yeah wheres the people's war they conducted? Where is any revolutionary activity done by the IWW in any meaningful way? What did the achieve?

How is the IWW doing now?

>How many years has it been since the revolution in Russia again?

Not as long as the founding of the IWW :^)

>It's in essence saying people shouldn't.

I never said this, in fact I said the opposite.

>There's nothing wrong with organizing, period.

Yes, I already said this

>You're saying rather than even try, just give up in advance

Again I said the exact opposite of what you are claiming I said. Stop trying to put words into my mouth

>because "that method of organizing failed because I said so."

No it failed because it never made any progress.

>Again, how do you even define a "failure"?

Not achieving what it set out to do.

>That a revolution didn't happen?

nor was it even attempted.

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 No.2873336

>>2873309

>The Unions in the US never fought capitalism petty street fights do not count

Literally all of the big ones after the 1890's were explicitly in favor of abolishing the wage-system and private property. Even in the 30's most American unions were communist-controlled. Most of the "Marxist" parties were actually reformist until the Bolsheviks came to power so unions were the main vehicle of socialism before 1917.

American union men wanted a better life than what they had. And they were prepared to knock the teeth out of the skulls of any cops or pinkertons who stood in the way of that. Can you say the same you little coward? When's the last time you put your life on the line fighting the state with guns and your own two hands like the boys in Colorado, West Virginia, and Illinois did?


 No.2873352

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>>2873336

>Literally all of the big ones after the 1890's were explicitly in favor of abolishing the wage-system and private property. Even in the 30's most American unions were communist-controlled. Most of the "Marxist" parties were actually reformist until the Bolsheviks came to power so unions were the main vehicle of socialism before 1917.

>American union men wanted a better life than what they had. And they were prepared to knock the teeth out of the skulls of any cops or pinkertons who stood in the way of that. Can you say the same you little coward? When's the last time you put your life on the line fighting the state with guns and your own two hands like the boys in Colorado, West Virginia, and Illinois did?

You keep talking about it like its relevant 100 years later. It didn't workout then and these days are even more hostile to unions.




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 No.2873139[Reply]

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 No.2873264

>>2873245

>guns vs no guns

No.


 No.2873267

>>2873250

>The American world order is becoming more and more strained and will soon explode

Keep dreaming.


 No.2873315

>>2873139

but then you have two wh*toids saying thats not the case

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYY1TjRigl8


 No.2873331

>>2873250

The first world isn’t dying, it’s stagnating, and soon China will be to with their economic slowdown and all.


 No.2873342

>>2873214

Lol you stupid nigger are you serious? just fuck off back to /pol/ already, how many times have you been banned now?




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 No.2868601[Reply]

This was the most evil man in history and if you know history, you know why.

You know why that is?

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 No.2873308

>>2873300

Not to be too blunt but the Cultural Revolution and the Permanent revolution are in no way comparable. Read it straight from the horse's mouth so to speak; https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1931/tpr/pr-index.htm

In essence the permanent revolution is the theory(proven by the history of the 20th century i might add) is the idea that a socialist revolution has to be led by the working class and no other class(Mao's bloc of 4 classes comes immediately in mind) because the working class is the only class whose material interests lay with the overthrow of capitalism. Second the revolution has to be of an international character because capitalism is an international system. As trotsky said "The completion of the socialist revolution within national limits is unthinkable. One of the basic reasons for the crisis in bourgeois society is the fact that the productive forces created by it can no longer be reconciled with the framework of the national state. From this follows on the one hand, imperialist wars, on the other, the utopia of a bourgeois United States of Europe. The socialist revolution begins on the national arena, it unfolds on the international arena, and is completed on the world arena. Thus, the socialist revolution becomes a permanent revolution in a newer and broader sense of the word; it attains completion, only in the final victory of the new society on our entire planet."


 No.2873312

Eh, I thought his writing was OK.

Some of his theory seems kind of shit tho


 No.2873316

>>2873269

>Therrnidorian

what does this mean?


 No.2873327

>>2873308

>this description of permanent revolution

It really can't be this simple can it? I mean it makes sense but is there a critique of this anywhere?


 No.2873329

>>2873316

Refers to Thermidor reaction against Robespierre. Thermidorian basically means reactionary against the more radical ideas of a revolution, that ultimately leads to its death




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 No.2873286[Reply]

can someone debunk this picture i found on pol. im too lazy to do my own research ————————————————————————————————————————————-

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 No.2873310

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>>2873307

>muh jewish bolshevik


 No.2873321

They're all mostly men, male genocide now!


 No.2873323

THEY WERE RUSSIAN


 No.2873328

Most of the time these people see a German name and assume it's jewish because they're dense as shit.


 No.2873338

All I see are capitalist propaganda pushers




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