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that spamming bitch is here again

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I started reading Thomas More's Utopia recently and was wondering if we could get a thread going about left wing literature. Anyone else read this and have thoughts on the book? Can it be considered proto-socialist?

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Wrote some shit

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Οk comrades its 21:30 and i have never been more bored in my life. I was reading theory all day and there is nothing to do. Give me some good ideas for an anarchist night out. Nothing too illegal or too violent.

How do you kill your counterevolutionary boredom?what do you do when you feel so betrayed by the daily reality?

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>>146102 post some of your art comrade,would love to see it.


I try to fuck or I watch tv and play vidya



What vidya do you play?



>Give me some good ideas for an anarchist night out.

Go downtown and look for unoccupied land. Note anywhere that seems useful but not used. At a later time maybe distribute this to some homeless people and tell them about adverse possession.



I cant draw for fucking shit but I wanna get better eventually.


Hope this link works

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…I hate them because they're Viets.

Overseas Viet here.

I'm descended from a Vietnamese draft dodger who fled to avoid conscription into the army when the SRV fought the Vietnamese-Cambodian War. Said draft dodger holds a rabid hatred of the Vietnamese government, probably because that seems to be a trend amongst Viet Kieu yellow flag wavers. I live in a virulently anti-communist area so I must hide my power level.

I've had a certain distaste for my co-ethnics over here. They're the most reactionary garbage and you might know they're the most pro-neocon bunch of garbage outside of Cuban gusanos. I fucking hate the cram school industry and the cult of education they've set up as well. The worst reactionary Confucian values seem to permeate it. I used to learn at a cram school and they were authoritarian as shit. I distinctly remember one of the tutors asking who hated America and I put my hand up and the tutor shithead shay on me for it.

Looking at the current state of geopolitics of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam and its red neoliberal cucking, I can't say I'm impressed either. I used to have a virulent, hysterical hatred of the SRV as well, carrying on from my father as a function of the anti-communism. I've since calmed down and I don't really buy into the myth of the 18th Division of the South Vietnamese army, but the Vietnamese, both here and there are absolutely cucked over by neoliberalism. The Viet Kieu are cucked by M16 rifles and the Viet Cong (as overseas Viets refer to the SRV as a whole) are cucked by American fast food.

Side mention: my uncle married a Vietnamese Catholic. They're the richest part of the family over here and when you look at the Buddhist Catholic conflict in South Vietnam, I find it highly interesting.

Why are Viets in general so cucked?

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you can hate us for the time being. but we're gonna soon be your allies, at least the disenfranchised farmer kids.

I think any of those who fought in Vietnam to be spat on by filthy hippies who had kids, those hippies had SJW kids. you were a farm boy, those SJWs hold giant tech jobs and ruin your communities by bringing in pozi into your small rural towns. Year Zero in America, finally.


Asians in general are really just bugs in human form.



>I think any of those who fought in Vietnam to be spat on by filthy hippies

t. Richard Nixon



They officially claim to have a "socialist-oriented market economy" with the intention of eventually moving towards a socialism, which is similar to what China claims.

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The hill imageboard left-niggers want to die on


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Stay mad


Radlib tier


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You have clearly never seen the shit put out by smoloko


That's the JRA Shigenobu group, not the URA.

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06/22/1941 started the Great Patriotic war.

Let's discuss the common anti-soviet and anti-communist myths about this war.

Myths like:

>muh Hitler was just defending himself, Stalin wanted to attack first

>Soviets are also war criminals, they helped nazis in the war against Poland

>muh Molotov-Ribbentrop pact

>it would be better for russians to just surrender to nazis

>muh penal battalions

>nazi collaborators were actually heroes, millions of soviet people collaborated with nazis because they hated Stalin and commies

>after liberation from labor camps soviet POWs were deported to gulagz

>muh 2 millions of raped german women


If you can russian this is useful source: http://wiki.istmat.info/

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You're right but you should have elaborated more on your post.



>I don;t know how to argue against this one

It's simple. It straight up didn't happen. Soviet POWs went through SMERSH filtration but only those found actually guilty of collaboration were sent to prison… and the number of POWs who were sent to prison was a miniscule portion of the total POW numbers.


Furr admits that SOME officers were executed but only a few select criminals. All evidence points to the fact that the majority of the Polish Officers were, in fact, killed by the Germans after they captured the area where the Polish Officers were Interned. Yuri Muhin wrote an extensive book on the subject that I suggest you read.


>2 million death toll

Never heard of that, 2 million deaths of whom? Where?

>Who the fuck ever even suggested this

Russian liberals and several Westerners who base this on the fact that Generalplan Ost was not finalized officially.



Katynskii Detektiv (1995) is no where to be found online, maybe on some book tracker or torrent/pdf site but I don't use those. So I'll have to address Moon Landing Denial Man's claims from others word of mouth.

>In order to unite Europe in the fight against the advancing Red Army, in 1943 Hitler ordered the graves with Polish officers shot by the Germans in 1941 near Smolensk, to be unearthed, and to announce to the world that they were allegedly killed in 1940 by the NKVD USSR by the orders of "Moscow Jews". The Polish exiled authorities, sitting in London and selling its allies, got caught by this hitlerite provocation and as a result during WWII additional millions of soldiers of USSR, UK, USA and Germany were killed. In order to denude the Russian allies and to give a nudge on the countries of the Western Europe and NATO, the scum of Central Committee of KPSU, Procurators' Office of the USSR and Academy of Sciences of the Russian Federation have reanimated the provocation in the 1980's. For students of law faculties and for all who consider Russia their Motherland.

So Hitler directly ordered, during wartime, in the highest of priority ordered his soldiers directly, not Gobbles or any other officials just his soldiers directly to find their mass graves again for propaganda?

Something which Gobbles was in charge of but he was never informed of?

>muh head shots

It's been confirmed Katyn had officers both shot through the neck and head. I doubt execution ethics played a role outside of the Union.

And that's unfortunately all I could find. No other major claims were made by people online saying what he said.

>Never heard of that, 2 million deaths of whom? Where?

Neonazi's who claim the end of the war absolutely devastated Germany and left 2-9 million dead. But I don't give a shit if it did. I'm just regurgitating their claim. Britain was guilty of doing similar things in WW1 and their whole fiasco is juicier anyways.



Discrediting his work on katyn by taking a jab at his statements about the Moon is a low blow.

>Something which Gobbles was in charge of but he was never informed of?

He was perfectly aware of the situation. and they hid the evidence of their crime brilliantly.

"Unfortunately, German ammunition has been found in the graves at Katyn. It is essential that this incident remains top secret. If it were to come to the knowledge of the enemy the whole Katyn affair would have to be dropped."



> I doubt execution ethics played a role outside of the Union.

Ethics? Sure. Protocol? Not so much. Soviet standard execution practice was to have a firing squad or more efficiently a machine gun.

The process of shooting them one by one in the back of the head was pointless. Moreover the bullets in the head were German and the actual ballistics determined that it couldn't be the standard pistol of the USSR at the time, the Tokarev TT, because the TT was far too powerful.

>Neonazi's who claim the end of the war absolutely devastated Germany and left 2-9 million dead.

Ah, Ok then

Also why would Hitler order Goebbels about finding the graves when he was propaganda minister?

pg 332, April 17, 1943 - ''"The Katyn incident is developing into a gigantic political affair which may have wide repercussions. We are exploiting it in every manner possible. So long as ten to twelve thousand polish victims have sacrificed their lives anyway - probably not entirely without their fault, for they were the real instigators of this war - they might as well now serve to open the eyes of the peoples of Europe about Bolshevism.

In the evening, a Globe Reuter reporter reached us containing a declartion by the Polish Government-in-exile. This declaration changes the whole Katyn affair fundementally in that the Polish Government-in-exile now demands that the International Red Cross take part in the investigation. That suits us perfectly. I immediately contacted the Fuehrer, who gave me permission to send a telegram to the International Red Cross, requesting it to collaborate to the greatest extenet possible in identifying corpses. This telegram is signed by the Duke of Colburg and Gotha, whose name is well known in England and who has many family connections there. In that way, in my opinion, something has been started the reprecussions of which we simply can't imagine yet."''

If you note, the Red Cross members and others invited by the Germans to look atPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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We're living in a post-apocalypse dystopia, the ruins of what they could be. The entire planet is being crushed under the weight of shredded plastic, cash checking stores, and prepaid debit cards yet nobody does anything. We are slowly inching towards a massive environmental crisis yet all people seem to want are cheaper solar panels. "Community" no longer exists; towns are for redevelopment into subdivisions and cities are for redevelopment into managed office parks. NASA can't even get to the moon anymore yet Trump can somehow find enough money for a space force, new missiles and new bombs.

I get this queasy feeling that 10 years from now everything is going to be a lot worse; climate change will cause more severe droughts prompting a much greater global migrant crisis while new atomic bomb testing adds radioactive fallout to the list of shit we're pumping into the air. Countries will either melt down or vainly try to lock themselves behind walls and guards like Israel and Apartheid SA do. This will suddenly prompt violence from the underclasses, which the center won't be able to handle. Even now when they are given a godsend like Trump, the center can't handle any criticism of their cosmopolitan capitalist lifestyle. They'll keep circling the drain until they have to move from a police response to a military response like Mexico did in the 2000s, prompting a global civil war that will have no winners.

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>why can't everyone be durk & muhture liek me

So I still hold some faith in the limitless potential of the human spirit, and I refuse to be browbeaten by cynical, shortsighted abuses of scientific inquiry into the endlessly fascinating mysteries of the universe. Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>muh MIC

Whatever. The same was true of the USSR's program, and as the Cold War wound down, both sides' space programs were among the most emphatic supporters deep inside the establishment apparatus or otherwise about the importance of peaceful cooperation and collaboration for all mankind, against the saber-rattling influences of their respective militaries, and remain so to this day.

>waste of money

You can probably guess what I'm about to say, about the enormous technological fallout of space exploration far more than compensating for any expense incurred in it. I can only imagine you're well aware of how far back we'd be without it, and have chosen to ignore it.

Even ignoring that, there's the fact that in a hundred years, a thousand years, a million years, our first steps out of the terrestrial cradle will remain the one event in contemporary human civilization seen as more than a trivial footnote of history.


Oops, 2nd reply in >>145773 was meant for >>145767


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>Even ignoring that, there's the fact that in a hundred years, a thousand years, a million years, our first steps out of the terrestrial cradle will remain the one event in contemporary human civilization seen as more than a trivial footnote of history.

<But what about muh Star Trek???

Kill yourself trekky.


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>sexually transmitted disease

>a genuine star trek installment


yes. I'm really scared of this. but, you know, we can't do anything with this. however, more an more, I prepare research papers on ecology and climate change for https://anonymous-essay.com/college-essay.html ,I realize the importance of recycling, conscious consumption and waste sorting, we can really save our planet

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Οk comrades its 21:30 and i have never been more bored in my life. I was reading theory all day and there is nothing to do. Give me some good ideas for an anarchist night out. Nothing too illegal or too violent.

How do you kill your counterevolutionary boredom?what do you do when you feel so betrayed by the daily reality?

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The head of Google's AI algorithm, Jen Gennai, was caught openly admitting that Google is censoring nationalists, right-wingers, and even center-left neoliberals like Dave Rubin in order to prevent Trump from winning in 2020.


Project Veritas's video was up for several hours, before getting ☘️taken down☘️. For those who don't know, Google owns YouTube.

Now wait a minute /leftpol/, you told me that corporations support fascists and nationalists. Why are they doing literally the opposite? Google is literally altering its algorithms to prevent nationalist videos and articles from getting views.

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People are wary because they're chickenshits. Oh noes white people want to not die…help he's trying to kill everyone!!!!!



Ok faggot. Reported.



Reported for using a slur.



>pointing out that american unity is stronger than petty ancestral identity is anti-working class



It's true that America has inter-ethnic conflicts among its white population, but that'll be superseded by radlibs pushing the racial conflict instead. Supercategory > subcategory.

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Can you guys suggest me what books to read and to tell me what do you think regarding:


>White nationalism

>This pic

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Muh mutts

Muh Retards




>all people make mistakes.

/leftpol/s response to Sakai

Bringin' tears to my eyes, oh yeah

Nobody done noticed 'til the jet was in the sky

Bringin' tears to my eyes, keep goin'

You gotta tell The WIZRD, it's a story like a book

Tears in my eyes, I can't forget where I came from

I lost a lover, it's alright





>White nationalism


>This pic

Crap. Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was a very short-lived agreement, and citing it as "uniting with Jewish Communists" when Germany exterminated their own Communists and attacked Russia isn't just wrong, it's bizarrely wrong. Like from that point on I'm not even sure what the message is supposed to be - is it supposed to be making fun of Nazi historical revisionism or does the person who made this actually believe that concentration camps were resorts? I mean the Nazis actually did wreck Europe and Germany itself, so that bit's true.




It's a problem, but the alt-right has the wrong "final solution", if you must. We oppose zionism not under antisemitic principles. We don't necessarily hate jews; we hate their religion, their idpol antics, the embodiment of "jewishness" as a weaponized political force and we also despise Israel and jewish nationalism because we see it as a tool of the bourgeoisie to control geopolitics.

As a matter of fact, we hate zionism because jewish nationalism/supremacy/separatism isn't any different from white/black/asian/(insert meaningless spooked term here) nationalism/supremacy/separatism. It's all about identity politics.

Zionism = nazism for the jews.

>White nationalism

Divide and conquer tactic used by the bourgeoisie to divert the attention from the bourgeois question. Tell whites to blame "niggers", then also tell blacks to blame "cumskins" and watch as they fight each other, all because the amount of, or lack there of, melanin, while they run through the backdoor with all the money.

>This pic

The evidence from both the holocaust and holodomor is out there. Discussing it any further is asinine.


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OP here, so to answer to what was my message in my picture is to make fun of the fact that not socialists defend Holocaust which ironically proves that their leader was a crypto Capitalist. How can you tell me this is not a complete jewery? Pic related

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Is it possible to stop radlibs from taking over leftist spaces?

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>implying so called "brocialists" are all white.

Just so you know, I'm what the alt-right calls a shitskin. I'm a mexifag and I despise idpol. It's not that we give a shit about your skin color. If you're an idpol retard, even if you're nordic/germanic, you get the middle finger.


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/fascist/ unironically



This but unironically, pre Hitler most fascists openly wanted as many ethnic people's in their empires as possible, they're pretty anti-idpol, that's why America is also 80% fascist in the modern day. It's just one large reactionary conservative multi ethnic empire.



The problem is that there's not enough viable, worthy RL organizations to be involved in. And for many actually existing organizations, being involved in them feels like a good explanation of going online to vent about identitarian bullshit.


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With right wing death squads a la Vichy Milice, Weimar Freikorps and American Militia running around, what is the answer?

To be completely frank, until the Freikorps problem is addressed, all left politics beyond raising consciousness is LARPing. Leftist street rabble and ANTIFA are a scrawny bunch compared to them. How do we address this problem?

I am off the opinion that mass armament us the only way. Every man woman and child should be armed and taught basic theory. The Freikorps of our times have to be diluted, outnumbered into oblivion. Think of East Germany.


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I'm just laffin at this thread. You lefties should become comedians.



And this is the "smart" lefty board, the others are supposedly trash or compromised.



There's a helicopter waiting for you.



>American militias are libertarian not fascist

Yeah, the frontmen are right-liberals. The rank and file? Not so much. The fash haven't disappeared or converted to socialism, m8. They've gone crypto and infiltrated the "respectable" right.

t. "constitutionalist"


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There's one waiting for you, too. 'Hope you two have lots of fun together.

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Is this the most insidious bald-faced propaganda there is? How does one even counter this horseshit?


By not being a faggot.






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Man, it really feels like /pol/ has infested every single board out there, even something like /sw/ is filled with people using /pol/'s redtared memes constantly and when anyone tries to tell them otherwise they just double down.

How do we despook these morons?

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8/a/ is indeed easily the worst board on the site for discussing anime, but IMHO that's mostly the meidos' fault, not the /a/nons.


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> it really feels like /pol/ has infested every single board out there, even something like /sw/ is filled with people using /pol/'s redtared memes constantly and when anyone tries to tell them otherwise they just double down.

I'm sorry, but you're a fucking idiot. You're complaining about being attacked, on a fucking Star Wars board, after making a thread about fucking politics, on a fucking Star Wars board.

You're a fucking idiot.



It's because white nationalism is organic and appealing, whereas the majority of Marxists in the West start out demanding that white people become cucks.



>op's thread was complaining about constant /pol/lution of past threads on /sw/

>hurdurr why would you make a thread complaining about inveterate crossboard rapefugee derails

Same thing on /strek/, especially infuriating given the franchise in question, and especially as a contrarian who despises DS9 while holding up ENT as an easy 3rd place behind TNG & TOS.



In a nutshell yes.

>Muh nation and race

Ohhh sounds very smart

>Labor Theory and Class struggle

Umm wat dat?

Stuff relating to nation and other conservative belief is more understandable and appealing to the average joe than Marx’s theories on economics.

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