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Need a mod to rename this thread subject >>2781507 by adding "/prc/ - "

>People's Republic of China general

>/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

to make it easier to search in catalog and more consistent with the older /dprk/ thread >>2265496

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>How can you call yourselves leftist politically incorrect?

/leftypol/ posters are allowed to voice opinions that offend liberals, SJWs, and so on. All sects on the left are allowed to post on /leftypol/, leading to plenty of fighting and shitflinging between leftists, which other forums might ban. However, this was only a minor consideration in the naming of /leftypol/. Since the concept is simply a leftist version of /pol/, the entire name of /pol/ was retained.

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Fuck off, low effort troll.

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Thought of a good title, hoping to redeem myself from last thread.

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> 'Anti-austerity' is not a socialist idea, it is about making changes within capitalism.

Irrelevant. It is something that has gained a lot of traction because outside of your fucking universities, in the real world, we're fucking poor and everything has been closed… for the left and they're right to seize it, despite my own opinions towards the SWP there is literally nothing wrong with this.



>Irrelevant. It is something that has gained a lot of traction

This is socdem stuff. We've already got Labour for complaining about austerity; the SWP are supposed to be an actual socialist party and that means criticising capitalism, not a specific form of capitalism.

>because outside of your fucking universities, in the real world, we're fucking poor

Lol, what are you implying? I'm not a student.



Have to disagree with him. Joining fucking ISIS isn't just a "mistake", that's a fucking deal with the devil. It's not like joining the kurds or some other militant group, ISIS are fucking mercenary scum that have plundered the entire middle east.



What you'd rather we do though? Ship her to Bangladesh where she can go around radicalising people there?

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Does anyone else here think that if Sanders wins nothing of note will happen? Both the Republicans and Democrats are staunch opponents of his agenda. Trump couldn't even get his 5b wall through even with a Republican house and senate, how will Sanders be able to push through a trillion dollar healthcare reform bill with virtually everyone in the political sphere opposing him?



He really did amassing against overwhelming odds in Burlington. Whether he succeeds or not, he has a strategy and he knows how things work very well.


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I believe he will win the nomination despite the media attacking him and he will ultimately beat Trump, but I am not sure how he will actually get anything done. The nature of the American legal system prevents people like him from having any tangible effect. Putin sums it up here.



>but I am not sure how he will actually get anything done

I'm noting that he's done quite a lot as a mayor and a (lone) senator. He went as far as shutting down American funneling funds through the IMF for several years.


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>Does anyone else here think that if Sanders wins nothing of note will happen? Both the Republicans and Democrats are staunch opponents of his agenda. Trump couldn't even get his 5b wall through even with a Republican house and senate, how will Sanders be able to push through a trillion dollar healthcare reform bill with virtually everyone in the political sphere opposing him?

You got a better option?



No. Though he is still beholden to capital, at least with Bernie I can expect some degree of environmental protection. I am curious what Americans expect from him.

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What are some topics in sociology, economics, philosophy, anthropology, psychology, or history you think leftists should explore more often, and why?

What would make a good topic of exploration if, say, you were writing a graduate thesis from a leftist perspective in the humanities or social sciences?

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I'm advocating something more here >>2820518 subsuming systems theory into diamat



So how to expand out from

Being steady unreflective life

Negated to non-being as the strange loop we call consciousness becomes aware of itself as a lack of all determinate thoughts

Negating this negation by becoming and reaching out and grasping things

How do we get from this beginning of the dialectic to what systems theory has grasped in a concrete manner, great Hegelian master?


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Why are you anti-postmodernist types always so retarded? almost always burgers. it actually hurts my brain.




Boy do I have something for you, go to your favourite search engine, type in the following terms together in the input field; postmodernism, Heidegger, ecology, fascism

Come back and tell us what you've learnt



Cold & Dark Stars? Dat u?



I'm not, but thank you so much for pointing him out to me. He's a bit wordy for my taste, but he seems to be saying the shit that I'm trying to get across here. It makes sense that we've got similar viewpoints, it looks like we were both physicists concerned with nonlinear phenomena. Very glad to come across this guy to wash the taste of anal water out of my mouth.

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My man is straight up reading a wsws.org article. Jimmyis ourguy and I would like to remind you that chapotards HATE him with a passion.

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This strike really redpilled The Dore, that video was amazing.


*My Army playing in the distance*


BASED Jimmy "One Man Holodomor" Dore


inb4 /leftypol/ brands him a "trotskyite" for referencing wsws.org



Jimmy is a liberal. He equated Stalin to Hitler.

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Anti-Zionism equals Anti-Semitism? Macron fuels debate on how to define anti-Jewish hate

Addressing a rise in hate crimes against the Jewish diaspora in France, President Emmanuel Macron has supported the expansion of the definition of anti-Semitism to outlaw anti-Zionism as well, fueling public debate over the terms.


Venezuela convoy heads to Colombia border as Maduro threatens to close it

Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido left Caracas with some 80 lawmakers on Thursday on a 800-km (500-mile) trip to the Colombian border where they hope to receive food and medicine to alleviate shortages in defiance of President Nicolas Maduro.


Israel elections: Netanyahu challengers Gantz and Lapid join forces

Two of Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu's strongest challengers in April elections have announced a centrist alliance in a bid to defeat him.Ex-army chief Benny Gantz and centrist politician Yair Lapid agreed to rotate as prime minister if they win.Separately, Mr Netanyahu forged an alliance with several far-right parties to try to shore up votes.


French ruling elite attacks “yellow vests” while claiming to fight anti-Semitism

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Yeah, so this coast guard thing is fucking huge and needs to be blasted everywhere.

>Military training

>Deep connection with Nazi groups

>Target list (including Democrat Cops of America membership) and plans of4 where and how to figure it out

>Galvanized by Mueller investigation closing and Dems going full Russiagate

>Confirms that Gov can literally track everything you do online down to how fast you scroll

>Probably would've have gotten caught had Gab not gone up shit Creek

Like, for fuck sakes, start learning how to protect yourselves lads.


>Israel elections: Netanyahu challengers Gantz and Lapid join forces

Netanyahu blasts Gantz-Lapid alliance: They rely on Arab parties who want to destroy Israel




>>Confirms that Gov can literally track everything you do online down to how fast you scroll

Where is that talked about?



Yeah, sauce on this bit and how it relates to the plans plx


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>no reporting on India tearing up the Indus Water Treaty and blockading Pakistan from water sources


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‘I do not recognize my country’: Yellow Vests who have lost eyes, limbs demand justice from Macron

France gathered for the 15th week of Gilets Jaunes protests, with the injury toll of the worst civil unrest in decades now resembling that of a small war. Yet despite pleas from victims, Emmanuel Macron is tightening the screws.


Karl Marx's London memorial vandalised for second time

The tomb of Karl Marx in Highgate cemetery in London has been vandalised for the second time in the space of a month.The words “doctrine of hate” and “architect of genocide” were found daubed in red paint across the Grade I-listed monument in the north London graveyard on Saturday.


US military planes land near Venezuela border with aid

The U.S. Air Force began flying tons of aid to a Colombian town on the Venezuelan border on Saturday as part of an effort meant to undermine socialist President Nicolas Maduro and back his rival to leadership of the South American nation.


Islamic State's 'caliphate' on brink of defeat in Syria

U.S.-backed fighters in Syria are poised to capture Islamic State’s last, tiny enclave on the Euphrates, the battle commander said on Saturday, bringing its self-declared caliphate to the brink of total defeat.

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>a Catholic church, to a Catholic.

to the neetsoc that almost as bad as being jewish



Was hitler a lawcuck?



Yeah, but blows the whole Marx as a Jew thing out of the water. Besides, Marx was an atheist, famously. Religion is incompatible with scientific socialism.



That looks like some weird false flag shit. How are you going to have a "No rape apologists" sign and a no pedo bashing NAMBLA sign in the same march. But I dunno, at least a handful of them are marching without masks.



>That looks like some weird false flag shit.

Yep it looks like a false flag because that's exactly what that was.

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ITT: movies, anime, music, feels, e-celebs, internet drama, fetishes, shitposting, etc.

This is a voluntary thread that users can choose to post in, if… I forgot the rest of whatever the old OP was. Honestly, I just wanted to bring this old thread back.

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Did you JUST find out?



Is it though, is it really?


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Deserves more discussion


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Didn't get what the video was going to be about from OP's description. Yeah that shit is fucked up. Especially so when you contrast it with it's reverse in western media: "raping women is literally worse than murder!!!" I was actually just talking about that today. That whole big controversy about that Goblin Slayer was part of "rape culture" and was endorsing rape. But of course they didn't mention all the grotesque murders in that show or literally every movie and show that's not a comedy.

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Post all of your Communist memes & propaganda.

Pepes, feels and even kawaii bullshit welcome.

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What is /leftypol/'s opinion on Louis-Auguste Blanqui?

Also is Blanquism a feasible strategy for communist revolution?


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>But unfortunately his ideas were antiquated and were mostly a holdover from revolutions and coups prior

Pretty much this. Ted Kaczynski wrote some good criticisms awhile back on why upper-level conspiracies probably won't work.

Firstly, it takes time, money, and energy to work up from an abslolute nobody to a high up position in political office, we're talking 10 or so years.

Second, the level of trust needed between all actors in on the conspiracy not to turn traitor or sell out eachother, and REAL commitment for that 10+ years.

Third, when the conspirators infiltrate the offices they may find its not so bad and either abandon the conspiracy for a life of pleasure or go full succdem with muh reforms.

Fourth, intelligence agencies are nosy fuckers and even small conspiracies in the US by a few people were quickly found out and disbandoned.

Don't hold yer breath is what I'm saying.



I was using that anon’s own definition against him, by which he define blanquism as small conspiratorial group that seized power with or without popular support. If you read my last sentence I proposed that Lenin created a Blanquist template for seizing power suited for mass politics of the 20th century. The conspiratorial core was still essential to this though, and everything you mentioned about sophisticated maneuvering, tactics, and no-holds-barred methods doesnt negate that and perhaps proves the rule.

As for the Blanquist, wasnt he notoriously contradictory in theory. Also tbh hes not wrong with the bourgeois comment as many leading bolsheviks were bourgeois or petty bourgeois (lenin was inherited hereditary status from his father ascending table of ranks and drew wealth from his mothers estate while in exile) and it also drew from the most educated proles



>I was using that anon’s own definition against him

I understood that

>created a Blanquist template for seizing power suited for mass politics of the 20th century.

As I explained though, it was by definition not Blanquist. To be Blanquist would be to ignore mass politics for a single small group of conspirators embedded within the elite of society. Anything else is not Blanquist.

>The conspiratorial core was still essential to this though

It was not by definition a conspiracy in the Blanquist sense either. What could be called the progenitors of the bolsheviks started with the disagreements within 2nd Party Congress of the RSDLP, with the "hards" who agreed with Lenin that they should first form an active base who would spend all of their time organizing the party towards becoming a mass revolutionary party, and the "softs" who thought they should simply rely on a larger number regulars and fellow travelers who may be able to come every once in a while to meetings. These disagreements persisted and eventually culminated in the writing of "What is to be done?", which caused members to take a harder stance on the organizational structure of the party. Eventually the bolsheviks within the RSDLP came into their own as a distinct entity in the party in 1905 during the 3rd Party Congress when they held a separate meeting in London from the Mensheviks who themselves had their own conference. As I mentioned they had their disagreements before and both sides had already started forming themselves within the party, but until then there hadn't been anything which could be considered a "split". There was an attempt to reunify the party during the fourth congress, but that fell through with the Mensheviks simply allying with the Bundists and assuming a majority in the party. It was only at this point did Lenin and a few other form a Centre which organized the Bolshevik faction within the party itself. The bolshevik faction itself was never quiet about their stance and stood firmly by it both within the party and publicly outside of it. All the centre did was keep the faction together, admittedly clandestinely as the RSDLP had forbid such sePost too long. Click here to view the full text.



>To be Blanquist would be to ignore mass politics for a single small group of conspirators

aren't there examples of leftist military coups succeeding though in 20th century third world politics? Sankara comes to mind among other left wing populists. Granted, popular movements do have a better record.

>Anything else is not Blanquist.

can't we acknowledge that some aspects of his thinking concerning small conspiratorial groups is useful? It's not the be all end all of revolutionary politics, but like is often mentioned on this board it should perhaps work separately or in collusion or conjunction with mass politics. In other words, a new revolutionary synthesis which I think Leninism showed us. I agree blanquism is obsolete as a practice or isolated strategy.

>t was not by definition a conspiracy in the Blanquist sense either….

If I'm understanding correctly, Lenin's bid for power in the party was conspiratorial. I don't mean that in a bad way, it is just to say that he disagreed with strategy from one school of thinking in the party and organized within its structures to win people to his view and to make his ideas the consensus within the party. He did this precisely because the far reach of the Tsarist police state required more secretive (conspiratorial) organization to evade authorities, coordinate activities more quickly and so take advantage of antagonisms inherent in Tsarist development so as to work toward worker emancipation and pave the way for the seizure of power by the RSDLP. Whether Lenin hoped to share power with Mensheviks in different circumstances is a difficult question, but events conspired to make him disinclined to share power and to exclude the other leftist parties. This was vindicated by the Menshevik's less militant stance, which paved the way for increasing bolshevik influence in the trade unions (for example after the Lena goldfields massacre), and ultimately made them more adaptable to the revolutionary situation of 1917, even after police repression basically wiped out menshevik AND bolshevik organizations throughout WWI. In this sense the Bolsheviks' quasi-blanquist mentality and organization Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


I'll just build my own cult and make people fight for the revolution.

- This post was made by the Blanquist Gang

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Fox News is reporting that Venezuelans are eating rats and zoo animals, killing each other because there is a "humanitarian crisis."

So this guy went to Caracas and visited one of their supermarkets.



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Seems like Tucker isn't going to be a psuedo-populist anymore now isn't he?


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>Fox News is reporting that Venezuelans are eating rats and zoo animals, killing each other because there is a "humanitarian crisis."

>Retards say retarded things.

Does anyone that isn't already a dyed in the wool reactionary even watch that channel?



>When a socdem BTFOs you so hard you abandon an entire motif



Literally every Western news outlet, including the liberal ones, are on board with this latest imperialist push, along with nearly the entire American political establishment and the political establishments of most other Western countries. It's Iraq all over again.

Hence the reason why spreading the truth has to be a "grassroots" effort.



i watch it for entertainment sometimes

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gets called out for being rich by historian, refuses to air interview


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Because a person working in the media gets most of their research just from consuming it. People are famous for reason X plus already being famous, already being famous is the main ingredient. It's like with David Graeber's rise to stardom some years ago. Bregman is becoming the next Graeber. He already is famous in the Netherlands and he starts popping up in other Euro media. There's a threshold where fame becomes highly automatic and he is over it.


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>Trying to bully people into being against babwnposter



haha deport niggers ROFL omg this is the best haha right wing memes are epic for the win



conservatives getting better at humour making the left uncomfortable



>not being against baboon-poster

>not being underage b&

Pick One.

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Haven't had these in a while. Discussion about post left theory, illegalist praxis and insurrection.

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>"Post-left" anarchism is essentially anarchism that wishes to divorce itself from the classical left, while still adhering to many of the same principles.

This wasn't at all new to anarchist discourse pre bob black. These are conversations, debates, arguments, etc. that have been had for a very long time. I feel like 'Post-Left' as a label is a deliberate attempt to commodiify the type of anarchy that many of us love. Why is it that any eng discussion about anarchy and leftism is framed by Black and the small crew of people specifically, despite the many varying people and positions throught europe and beyond.



turd positionism


No one should ever work.

Work is the source of nearly all the misery in the world. Almost any evil you’d care to name comes from working or from living in a world designed for work. In order to stop suffering, we have to stop working.

That doesn’t mean we have to stop doing things. It does mean creating a new way of life based on play; in other words, a ludic conviviality, commensality, and maybe even art. There is more to play than child’s play, as worthy as that is. I call for a collective adventure in generalized joy and freely interdependent exuberance. Play isn’t passive. Doubtless we all need a lot more time for sheer sloth and slack than we ever enjoy now, regardless of income or occupation, but once recovered from employment-induced exhaustion nearly all of us want to act. Oblomovism and Stakhanovism are two sides of the same debased coin.

The ludic life is totally incompatible with existing reality. So much the worse for “reality,” the gravity hole that sucks the vitality from the little in life that still distinguishes it from mere survival. Curiously — or maybe not — all the old ideologies are conservative because they believe in work. Some of them, like Marxism and most brands of anarchism, believe in work all the more fiercely because they believe in so little else.


what the hell is "illegalism"

bitch communists are already illegal



Basically, treating crime as a lifestyle. Y'know, shoplifting food so you don't have to pay money thus entrenching the capitalist system. MLs are quick to pull the trigger on 'lifestylism' but I think they're missing the point, I agree that crime in itself isn't going to bring down capitalism unless we have organization at some level, HOWEVER, there is literally nothing wrong with shoplifting/piracy from corporations.

>communists are already illegal

IIRC in America, only the creation of communist parties are illegal, but calling yourself a communist in public isn't an arrestable offence I believe.

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