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I decidedly to make this thread after watching the james mason vs ben larson debate if interested then here is the video, after watching this james did make some good points when it comes to being brutal and cruel to our enemies, how ever I am not advocating people should be going and doing violence I made this thread and having a debate and discussion about siege and james mason, of course some say he is a satanists (would like some hardcore proof of that.)
Now I know a good amount of this board already watched the greatest story never told or europa final battle and mein kampf and a few good books, know what the jews did then are still applied to now and points out the problem. But what is the solution? I mean hitler winning an election at the time when kikes screwed up and that germany was still racially aware was all a miracle, but since times had changed what should be the solution? Some points out siege being the only answer to most of our problems, but is it really? Are their other methods fixing this or not? I've been terribly conflicted /pol/ should I read siege (with caution and not take everything he says as holy gospel) or should I try to find another way that could or help the cause? I simply made this thread because I want to debate or see a discussion about it, because mason did make some decent points.
I don't think he's a satanist, I think he's a Christian Identify type of guy.
It's certainly concerning that he still associates with Autismwaffen, I think Beast Barracks blog that one of the key members of AWD runs recently advocated for pedophilia and child abuse. Ether he's trying to bait feds or is a massive fucking degenerate.
Heard atomwaffen has a jew writing their books as well, though I am not sure nor had I look into the organization my self, so don't quote me on this since I didn't look into it as much.
It could be compromised, I heard they hired a Jew lawyer but that could be disinformation, idk.
Also books, do you mean Tempel ov Blood? Idk much about Liber 333 or Iron Gates.
Bought and paid for CIAnigger
>should I read tripe written by said CIAnigger?
Sure, if you want to be a wind-up cargo cultist like the rest of larpenwaffen.
That's nice want to contribute anything to the discussion?
>Bought and paid for CIAnigger
Mind showing evidence?
Lurk 200 more years.
LARPenwaffen isn't welcome here, nor were they ever welcome. Jack off your fed honeypot shit on your designated containment chat client/website.
Heard about it, heard one of the books had a page about raping a white baby, which I am not surprised since jews were sick in the head anyway, and some pages is like reading a talmud in some parts, I haven't read any of it so I don't know if it's people over exaggerating, because I am basing this from what I heard.
I wasn't promoting Larpenwaffen hell I hardly know the organization, if you are gonna say james mason is a cianigger you need to back it up with convincing evidence and arguments.
I liked it when Odin was in charge, he should of never invited a Sand Nigger convert into his little organization. It would have been smooth sailing. It's downfall is kinda a crying shame. But other far more underground organizations will continue to prevail.
>please spoonfeed me
>on why this CIanigger author whose most "prolific" book has been spammed by actual cargo cultist LARPers for over a year on this board
If you're going to be a newfaggot retard, please disclose how fucking new you are in the OP.
Maybe your ban wore out by now…
I thought cuckchan never supported such organizations.
>I am not gonna give you evidence
You made a claim, now back it up with evidence.
>LARPers who was spamming it
I know they were, but in what way does it prove that mason himself was a cia nigger? Don't be like that faggot from the meta who claims hitler had rothchild connections despite being btfo by actual information and deflect
>Hurr this is not evidence
and repeat the same argument 500 times over.
>t's downfall is kinda a crying shame. But other far more underground organizations will continue to prevail.
I do like the yellow jacket that french is going it has people from all over the political spectrum with no goals and leaders thus making it harder to subvert and control. IS there any other underground organizations that are not controlled opposition?
The guy is like a video game villain, he cracks me up.
Who james mason or ben larson?
Mason. Larson is just a blowhard idiot.
>please spoonfeed me
Do you prepare you food, pureé it in a blender, pour it into a cup, and suck with a hard plastic straw?
You are the faggot who wasted a thread to ask,
<HEY GUISE, SHOULD I REED SEEJ?
If you had the effort to make the thread, then you are likely already reading that rag.
Go ahead, enjoy yourself. It won't live up to what your larper brethren hyped it up to be. It is just a masturbatory, CIA approved, "white nationalist" book, just like the Turner Diaries. Next you're gonna say shit like
<Mosley/GLR/Oswald/Unabomber is baste!
You made your bed, OP, now lie in it.
>If you had the effort to make the thread, then you are likely already reading that rag.
Tried my best, next time if I am going to make a thread I will make it better.
> It won't live up to what your larper brethren hyped it up to be. It is just a masturbatory, CIA approved, "white nationalist" book, just like the Turner Diaries. Next you're gonna say shit like
Are you going to back up your claims or not? Do you expect people like me to take what you say at face value? That's like me saying andrew jackson was a jewish plant with no evidence supporting other wise.
who vs who? more importantly, who cares?
Almost on sight and D&C kikery happens lol.
I made this thread simply to discuss and debate about siege and james mason, I made this thread because I do honestly believe mason made some good points.
from James Mason's newest interview
Might look it up if true, how does mason view trump?
James Mason writes articles supporting Donald Trump. Trump has done more to destroy race relations and unify whites politically than any recent figure
Interesting. Thinks for showing a link and backing it up *cough* unlike this nigger.
You made a thread name dropping nobodies instead of about a debate.
Sorry if I didn't make it clear enough, but the thread has nothing to do with the video, just something that made me want to discuss about siege and james mason.
The new James Mason interview is on video where he supports Timothy McVeigh, Robert Bowers, James Fields, Donald Trump. Skip to 45min
Thanks fren I will check it out.
Esoteric Hitlerism is the core of all Truth
When we win, all people formerly employed by the government will be exterminated.
>James Mason writes articles supporting Donald Trump
Because deep down Mason is still a boomer. He can't avoid showing some boomer traits, such as consuming copious amounts of fake news and extreme gullibility to jew-puppet conmen like Trump.
>Trump has done more to destroy race relations and unify whites politically than any recent figure
Not to destroy, but to make them honest, races are different and have little in common beside basic necessities.
And you are 100% right, the White awakening have begun.
What are your motivations behind posting an image of a character from a children's cartoon?
I honestly dont think mason as an satanist he probably feels the same way 90% of /pol/acks feel about society, though not as extreme but were all aiming for the truth. In some ways yes he is correct, would I recommand reading siege? That's up to you, but do not take it on face value.
GTFO commie cunt.
Or do you need help to leave?
Its a 6/10 book, he has some good quotes. Its not gospel. I find the history of the NSLF better put together than his arguments about the system and voting, even if I agree with his arguments. Its a book about a subject that wasnt explicitly laid out in as much detail as it should have been. Its also too red, too much of it is communist and anarchist in nature. Its subversive in multiple ways.
The stuff about lemmings and the system is bang on though, even if the methods of stopping the system werent laid out as clear as they should be. Its just shut the system down, muh mailman meme. Pretty shallow. Muh system pimps.
>Did james made some good points when it comes to the government?
>I've been terribly conflicted /pol/ should I read siege (with caution
You are mindfucked by alt-kike e-celebs; why the fuck would you need to ask us if you should read a book or not? Just read it.
>Lurk 200 more years.
>LARPenwaffen isn't welcome here, nor were they ever welcome
Still astroturfing, eh? You faggots certainly aren't welcome >>>/TRS/
I recommend not using TRS vernacular if you want to avoid getting banned.
>You don't need permission to read shit
Yeah we're not liberal "intellectuals" you should have enough critical thinking skills, and common sense to read something and be able to see what's good and bad in a book. Even if you disagree with the books premise, actually reading it will allow you to come up with counter arguments.
He'll yeah brother
Ya either if op read siege is honestly up to him.
If anything and what I read it's should be use only for lone wolf work, though not that laid out well, though I wouldn't recommand doing shit, but inflitrating organizations like gommunism and all that doesn't sound bad.
Certainly, they just don't present themselves publicly on the web.
Seems like a false dichotomy.
"When one speaks of humanity, the idea is fundamental that this is something which separates and distinguishes man from nature. In reality, however, there is no such separation: “natural” qualities and those called truly “human” are inseparably grown together. Man, in his highest and noblest capacities, is wholly nature and embodies its uncanny dual character. Those of his abilities which are terrifying and considered inhuman may even be the fertile soil out of which alone all humanity can grow in impulse, deed, and work."
Your cartoon has no trigger discipline.
Ha, I just noticed that. Ironmarch had some really cool artists. I wish there was an archive of that stuff. I can't seem to find any.
DAY OF THE PILL SCHIZO POSTER.
DAY OF THE PILL SCHIZO POSTER
>I am not advocating people should be going and doing violence
We must peacefully overthrow the jews and peacefully send them all to Israel where they can live out their lives in peace.
Man you're so innocent I love it. You're actually outright trying to apologize to the schizocrew. You must be new.
There's a group of 5 or 6 posters who have severe schizophrenic delusions. The problem is, they DO NOT agree with each other. So they'll independantly spam each thread with "KILL YOURSELF YID"
"THIS DISCUSSION IS WORTHLESS"
"OP IS A JEW" over and over again. Its annoying but you'll get used to it. Every time I make a thread, some schizo threatens to dox me for "being Jewish" despite having literally no evidence. It's retarded and they killed the majority of the community here.
I really do hate scumbag Christian radio hosts like this piece of filth. All they do is scream their hate slurs due to their utter lack of ability to form a coherent argument.
I dislike Mason strongly because his followers tend to be worthless trash. However, seeing this dishonest piece of filth try to push him around and demean him in such a childish way makes me like Mason more.
TRS Derangement Syndrome
Stop shilling your nonsense, Moarpheus.
>I wish there was an archive of that stuff. I can't seem to find any.
There is an archive of most of the works of Iron March, including Rope Culture and all of the published literature.
Here's a section of it.
t. alt-kike faggot
I still don't understand how these asshats still have followers of any kind.
Aw thanks anon, I remember there being more art and illustrations on the site but this will certainly do. Much appreciated.
A lot of it was hosted on various members tumblr pages and what have you, but most of them were shoahed in the numerous nazi purges of tumblr. You'll still see it circulating across the web on various social media platforms though.
Why the fuck was tumblr purging them?
Yeah, I'm always on the search of all I can find of that stuff, once I get a ton of pieces I'll make a MEGA for it.
dark foreigner still has his tumblr tho
Because tumblr is a kike owned platform populated by whores and trannies - the same reason every other website purges nazis.
Siege is pretty good but holy fuck their "propaganda" is the worst shit I've ever seen. Literally pure edge aesthetics, complete with skull masks.
Tell Mason to fix his shit and maybe people would take him more seriously.
youre a boomer
>this afraid of siege
>starting to attack the turner diaries just like I predicted months ago
They're just books, dude.
>muh new awakening muh nwf
You mean the books that fetishize ethnic cleansing and killing random nonwhites and government functionaries?
Seems pretty "negative" to me.
>operator masks bad
The light was turned off in 1945.
The IV Reich will have to come with the available elements, even if they are skinheads and siegefags.
Because in the end, all it matters is to carry the NatSoc torch.
Are you afraid?
He probably gives the best analysis of where things went and where they were going for his time post WW2 to now. His views on action were more intellectual than a guidebook that some have made it out to be. He was ahead of his time and because of that he went down some bizarre routes.
Lad I have nothing against siege, its just your "propaganda" is beyond childish. Most people literally hate you guys until they read siege themselves, and then still hate you guys but like the book. If that isn't ineffective propaganda then what is.
I became a natsoc because of Hitlers speeches and love of his people, not because of his hatred of jews. Hating jews is a necessary thing, but it isn't the thing that leads people to joining the movement in the first place.
I do like some of the propaganda, it's hit or miss depending on the poster, but imo a lot of the people who shit on SIEGE are MAGApedes and TRSodomites so there opinion was worthless to begin with.
>There is an archive of most of the works of Iron March, including Rope Culture and all of the published literature.
It is blessed stuff.
>blah blah optics muh PR
You can't improve your propaganda or advertisement if when it doesn't work you just say "lol they are maganiggers anyways". Honestly the images are so low effort they look like a shock image the kike news would make in order to show parents "look at the evil neo-nazis"
Well the properganda got between 40-80 members in AWD, I don't think it didn't "work" but I think the drama associated with the organization which made said posters is was makes some of these people conclusions of the posters as "memey" or "edgey". Atomwaffen's poster style is inherently Iron March, and before autism everyone I knew loved Iron March aesthetics.
No one said optics you illiterate nigger. You guys make these images as "propaganda", yet if everyone other than people who are already in siege hate it; then its shit fucking propaganda isnt it?
Pic related is literally what your propaganda looks like.
People join because siege legitimately have good ideas, it's unironically held back by its memes. Most people on /pol/ when they finally read the book enjoy it. No one other than siege posters themselves enjoy the shitty edge memes.
Yeah the AWD memes give a wrong impression of the book
tbh i only got interested of the book because of them
Idk, I do like the style of propaganda, and a lot of other people do too. I see where you're coming from but this conversation seems like it'll be a every spiraling circle of conflicting reports and views.
Also how did you find out about SIEGE and what do you find personally appealing about it? Any particular chapters you or ideas that grabbed you?
>spiraling circle of conflicting reports and views.
Probably true enough, ill let you guys do your thing and leave the thread after this post. I just can't help mock the childish images from time to time.
> how did you find out about SIEGE and what do you find personally appealing about it?
Honestly because I was so sick of people saying REED SEEJ, I wanted to read it and then shit on it. Turns out it was pretty good. Honestly I enjoyed how very boots on the ground it is, and the chapter which focuses on what you yourself can do and not what we can do. To rely on yourself is to grant the greatest results.
I wonder when I heard a similar phrase around here… hmmm, perhaps when kikey banned me for "Impkamfy Derangement Syndrome"
>Did james made some good points when it comes to the government?
yes, you pulverize it.
why are mods allowing these Siege spam threads? There's like three of them right now. As bad as cuckchan.
>why does the paid jew shills who runs the website allow paid jew shills to do whatever they want
It is a mystery.
>everyone I knew loved Iron March aesthetics.
Except for Alt right PR cucks who have been continually triggered by everything that isn't Mike Peinovich's rumbly jew voice.
Case in point >>12514803
What books have they written? Nearly all of their published books are from JM himself.
You don't get a final solution to this through love of your people when your people don't have a context for joining you which is what siege is about.
TRS shills were the biggest enemy of IM. Remember when Kike enoch was saying they were behind all the doxes with no evidence?
I think he was referring to Tempel Ov Blood.
Yeah but he said AW
Who wrote Liber 333 and Iron Gates anyways?
I don't know probably some edgster from temple of blood.
I like the siege shit but them suggesting to read this shit to desensitize yourself is autism.
Read SIEGE by James Mason.
Very much so, I think they scenario/story idea for Iron Gates is actually kinda neat but from what I hear it's super fucking degenerate. AWD really took a massive downturn when Odin got thrown in the slammer.
Odin supports current AW.
But he is behind bars and communication is probably very limited, is he aware of the Santanist stuff?
Yeah. AWD released some audio from a call with him.
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I saw it claimed that this guy (Koetting) was one of the authors of Liber 333.
I probably should at least give them a read, even if they are autistic.
I'l; give that a listen later.
Koetting was arrested with guns and cocaine. All these people are degenerate losers.
yeah, they got so asshurt when /pol/acks were telling them that Natt Danelaw was behind the doxes
READ SIEGE VERONICA
Good to hear he is not demoralized.
Go back to Iron March, Sinead. Everybody knows you did it, along with all the antifachan spics here.
Siege is childish shit for edgy teens. Awd was always a joke and always will be. Its a great alphabet honeypot.
Have red about the faggots arrested in UK connected to AWD? 17 and 21 yo hahaha, its just edgy kids being fucking edgy trying to escape their misery of their existence by pretending to be members of an elite haxxor deathsquad. Aesthetics of siegefags suits a counterstrike clan, not an IRL resistance group. You are a fucking joke and always will be.
>Siege is childish shit for edgy teens. Awd was always a joke and always will be. Its a great alphabet honeypot.
You have 100% not read it.
>siege is childish
>let me post a picture of richard spencer, a man who ran away when punched and acted like a bitch on camera saying "antifa has won"
okay buddy. God is the Alt Right a joke.
>Siege is childish shit for edgy teens.
hasn't read Siege
>Awd was always a joke and always will be.
that'll be why it had thousands of subscriptions as an active newsletter
>Its a great alphabet honeypot.
< a book is a honeypot
you alt-kike fags are literally braindead
Spencer is literally a confirmed CIA lackey, fuck off with your gay ass bullshit.
The globalists are not human beings. Henceforth the word globalist means to us the most terrible curse. From now on the word globalist will trigger your rifle. We shall not speak anymore. We shall not get excited. We shall kill. If you have not killed at least one globalist a day, you have wasted that day… If you cannot kill your globalist with a bullet, kill him with your car. If there is calm on your part of the front, if you are waiting for the fighting, kill a globalist before combat. If you leave a globalist alive, the globalist will plot and scheme for more globalism and finance your local synagogue. If you kill one globalist, kill another - there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of globalist corpses. Do not count days; do not count miles. Count only the number of globalists you have killed. Kill the globalist - this is your old mother's prayer. Kill the globalist - this is what your children beseech you to do. Kill the globalist - this is the cry of your nation's earth. Do not waver. Do not let up. Kill.
I do not think op was implying I dp genuinely think he made this thread to debate and discusss.
Oops I misread the post.
This. Spencer is a confirmed plant, same as Juden Peterson.
Yes that's mostly why the majority turned fascist and natsoc here, simply because of how he turned his country that used to be degeneracy shithole to something greater and how the people support him.
It's really inspiring to the soul.
Did it take you this long to notice this?
Depending on how important they are.
My God Bob Larson is fucking annoying.
He just interrupts over and over and mocks, and barely even allows discussion. They are both Jews.
Seems like you dont even try to argue that awd are a bunch of retarded teens. Very telling.
>join your local edgy teens who have no expierence with the world and lash out making goth inspired nazi propaganda
You made no argument as to why siege is bad asides that they are edgy followers.
>goth inspired nazi propaganda
I need evidence that james mason and bob are jews.
I thought the exact same thing
>agues against vicariously
>doesnt even counter any of the contents
You are mentally defective
Can you make atleast one coherent argument?
James is a good dude and you should definitely read Siege and his other books he's put out (The Theocrat, One Verse Charlies, Revisiting Revelation). Siege is out of print again, because some faggot ass Commies reported it to Amazon on Twitter, so it'll probably be a while before you can find a print copy without getting lucky on ebay, but the rest of his books are still on there.
Want to contribute anything to the conversation?
Quite interesting…. But some had said communist china more resembles natsoc or some sort of fascist system, though I could be wrong china isn't all that communist anymore is it?
The Communist Party of China is the current ruling party..
yeah dude just read it, its just a collection of newslaters that were put together like 10 years(?) after he wrote them, it is crazy how the movement is reliving the same cycles and debates
should we march in public?
should we dress like normies?
should we speak like normies?
basically how ”larpy” should we be?
is it better to be anonymous or come out as a public figure?
he moved to work with dr. pierce when he was 16, just before or after rockwell was murdered, so he has lived it.
Have an interesting and may sound retarded I know how germans and ww2 and how the wrong side won… But beyond that I am basically a brainlet who assassinated rockwell and by who?
>You mean the books that fetishize ethnic cleansing and killing random nonwhites and government functionaries?
>Seems pretty "negative" to me.
In The Brigade, non-whites, race-mixers and homosexuals were given plenty of warning to leave the north-west before they started getting popped. Many of those who stayed (e.g., FATPO) took delight in abusing, torturing, and murdering whites. Plenty of justification.
I can't speak for the other books in the series.
>who assassinated rockwell and by who?
a mossad agent
Rockwell was assassinated by John "Yanaki Patsalos" Patler. Patler was expelled from the party for supposedly having pro-Bolshevik leanings, and promoting d&c in the group (rallying the few meds in the group against the majority of members, who were western European).
Vice Commander Matt Koehl was also rumored to have been involved, but that was never proven.
This Is Siege Culture™
Whoever said that Rape wrote Iron Gates is a fucking retard, Marinet Press ( run by Tempel ov Blood) wrote that book. The whole "rape wrote gates" meme was a joke between aw discords.
Young James Mason makes good points and SIEGE is a good book. Unfortunately recent James Mason is a mentally unstable mad man and SIEGE's most ardent supporters are also mentally unstable low IQ individuals
Some of those articles are not written by Mason. UO members are antinomians, which is Christian Satanism retardation. They regularly promote this satanic cult. I wouldn't recommend getting involved with any of them. I'm serious. Meth smoking doomsday cultists is where I'm going to draw the line.
All these photos look like from some porn fetish website
>following a retarded cobbled together mess of an ideology that even hitler would laugh at
What happened to james mason as of recent?
I partially agree but Mason hasn't fully lost it. I'm assuming you are refering to his GOP/Trump shilling? Well, in a recent mini interview on PBS Frontline he said he supported Robert Bowers, Breivik, etc., so…
Do we know the individual(s) name who wrote Iron Gates?